Late on Thursday, Jill Wine-Banks, a former Watergate prosecutor said on MSNBC that President Trump‘s lawyer Rudy Giuliani pretty much “admitted” that Robert Mueller has an excellent case for obstruction of justice charges. Rudy Giuliani’s recent remarks about limiting questions from Mueller’s team about Trump’ involvement in collusion and obstruction indicated to her that Giuliani knows how strong the evidence against Trump is.
“He said, ‘Oh I’m fine with collusion because there’s no collusion, but obstruction, that’s a matter of interpretation,'” Jill Wine-Banks explained. “And it isn’t. Facts are a funny thing. The truth and the facts will come out, and I don’t think it’s going to show that it’s a matter of interpretation, but of guilt.”
Jill Wine-Banks also said Giuliani is attempting to manipulate the public’s understanding regarding the negotiations with Robert Mueller’s investigators, who are investigating how Trump conspired with Russia to rig the 2016 election.
“You have unanswered accusations from Giuliani that Mueller cannot and must not answer because he’s acting appropriately,” Wine-Banks said. “Giuliani can say whatever he wants and then he can say, ‘And see how unfair it was, they didn’t want to agree to that, they said they would and then they wouldn’t.’”
Wine-Banks also claimed that a New York Times story saying that Trump pressured the Attorney General Jeff Sessions to go back on his recusal from the Trump-Russia election-rigging investigation is yet another example of obstruction. The newspaper wrote on Tuesday that Donald Trump committed that crime all the way back in March 2017.
Donald Trump has repeatedly referred to the Mueller investigation as a “witch hunt” and has even lied that the FBI put a spy in his evil presidential campaign.
Giuliani said Tuesday that President Trump would not have an interview with Robert Mueller until the Trump legal team gets all documents involved with the FBI’s informant, which is a classic red herring.
“We need all the documents before we can decide whether we are going to do an interview,” Rudy Giuliani said obnoxiously to The Washington Post.